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  Actively Fading and The Memorial

  by All for show in

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  those of you fading- with the memorial approaching are you going to appease family?

  not going and making up an excuse?

  acting like your going but not really?.

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  Tell them that you thought last year was going to be the last Memorial in this system of things. LOL
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  So Proud of Pops

  by brandnew in

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  ok so a car pulls up to the house and 3 eldurrs from my dads congo come up.

  they come in and have thee nerve to ask me to step out so they can speak to pops!!!!

  this is the good part.....pops says...and i quote " whatever needs to be said..can be said in front of my son".

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  Nice job. I'm just in shock at the audacity of those elders! No shame
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  Has anyone else collected their money back from local Kingdom Halls for money loaned for construction?

  by StoneWall in

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  just a reminder if you haven't, to get it back before they sell any more halls.even if you're currently da/df you can still collect any monies owed you by the kingdom hall as far as loans go.we were able to get back $1000 that my mom had loaned the local hall for a loan to build new one.it was documented by the paper that had been given each publisher back then on how much they could/would be willing to give as an outright donation or a loan.

  the loan was to be paid back whenever the publisher requested it.

  (not a specific date)i can't help but feel that a lot of the old timers that loaned monies to the society and/or k-halls have been forgot about by them or their families.

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  I"m shocked they actually gave it back! Good for her.
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  What Is The Watchtower's Biggest Problem?

  by minimus in

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  the organization has many problems.

  certain doctrines are problematic.

  the men who run the organizaion have issues.

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  Member apathy is their single biggest problem. People may still come to meetings, but less regular and really not enthusiastic. Apathy causes donations to dip. The crazy thing is that instead of trying to make changes and figure out what is causing the apathy, they do more of the same (guilt).
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  I lied to the elders

  by atacrossroads in

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  i stopped attending meetings all together in january 2015. before that my attendance was irregular at best.

  my husband followed suit a few months ago after months of research, agony, and indecision on his part.

  from the very beginning i laid low and did not share with anyone what i found out about the witnesses because i did not want to be df'd.

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  I think you did the right thing. You are under no obligation to discuss anything with them. I likely wouldn't share your feelings with anybody else that could corroborate your mom's story though. It is sad that a mother would turn her own daughter in but likely she thinks she's "helping" you.
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  Talk on "Reaching Out"-Only What BOE Thinks Matters

  by Simon Templar in

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  2. experiences

  for the “living as christians” section of the workbook, “are you reaching out?” talk (15 min), the bethelite gave this talk at the meeting.

  he totally departed from the subject matter which is the watchtower of september 15, 2014, pages 3-6. he was so far off the reservation, it wasn't funny.

  here are a few highlights of what was said: 1) if any brother asked why they haven’t been appointed, and wants to know if there is a problem or condition that exists, that brother is too “presumptuous” and therefore, can’t be used.

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  Wow - you never know what straw finally breaks the camel's back. However, what speaker said is actually the truth. Some, if not many, BOEs get really annoyed if a "brother" asks what's holding them back. And, it really is all about what the BOE thinks/feels. I've seen people torpedoed for unbelievably silly things while others promoted with more serious deficiencies.
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  Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

  by OrphanCrow in

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  2. child-abuse

  court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

  a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

  http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

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  The court believes there is a material fact that needs a trial so they didn't dismiss the case.
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  Walking a thin line - Resigning Elder

  by Sanchy in

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  warning of a long boring post ahead.

  i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.

  i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.

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  Doubting Bro

  Sanchy - welcome and look forward to your contributions. As many others have said, you are not alone! Your story sounds similar to mine and many others here.

  It took me much longer to step down and you've probably saved yourself some sleepless nights, although with a new baby on the way, you'll be getting plenty of those!!

  Just don't make any drastic decisions and if you decide to fade, DON'T mention doubts anymore. The stress of taking care of a young family should be enough to get them off your back.

  I feel one of the biggest advantages of this site is that it allows people to vent in a way they really can't do with people they know!
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  Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

  a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

  http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

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  Doubting Bro

  So they just denied summary judgment? Ok, that just means the trial moves forward. The SJ would have thrown the case out. Should be an interesting case.
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  Would you kill for the org?.......YES I WOULD!

  by olongapo joe in

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  2. experiences

  so, a few years ago my jw parents, my non jw sister and her husband, and myself were discussing religion and jw beliefs.

  my parents of course defending the jw's, the rest of us, against jw's ( it may not have been specifically against jw's, maybe just religion in general) anyway, things are getting a little heated, and i finally ask my pops, if the watchtower bible and tract society told you to go out and start killing muslims, would you do it?

  yes i would, was his reply, to which i say, then your not any different than the radical muslims killing in the name of religion.

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  Doubting Bro

  Like Blondie pointed out, I was always taught it wasn't going to be our battle. I've heard it compared to when the Assyrians surrounded Jerusalem and the angel killed 180ish thousand soldiers or whatever the number was. So they would have had to made some major theological changes to make the leap to killing for them.

  BUT, I most certainly would have died for them. Whether refusing blood or being a martyr at the hands of the government, I absolutely was ready to make that sacrifice. I was a kid during Malawi and I remember having dreams about me being in a situation where I faced the choice of death or renouncing my faith.

  God what an idiot I was!